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Appels d'offres: le futur se prépare
Mar 30 Mar 2010 - 21:52
Aujourd'hui publication d'appels d'offre pour le spatial. A côté de petits appels d'offre pour la rénovation de Baïkonour il y a de gros contrats sur les systèmes du futur: en particulier des moteurs pour "promising rockets for manned space systems and super-heavy launch vehicle" ou pour "advanced launch vehicles, upper stages and reusable space transportation systems".
Il est un peu difficile de dire à quoi précisément correspondent ces appels d'offre mais c'est la première fois qu'il est fait allusion officiellement à un "super heavy lauch vehicule" (fusée super lourde).
The site Roskosmos posted conditions new tenders for government contracts
:: 30.03.2010
The site of the Federal Space Agency today published the tender documentation for the next 7 open tender for government contracts:
"Creating the perspective of a multifunctional complex, and centers of ground-based receiving, recording and processing of space information of remote sensing (RS) and, based on integrated satellite remote sensing, in terms of establishing the elements of a single territorial-distributed information system, remote sensing data in 2010-2011. Code: ROC "Admission"
The initial (maximum) contract price: 257 000 000,0 rubles.
Terms of the contract: 2010 - 2011 GG
"Creating an oxygen-hydrocarbon and hydrogen liquid rocket engines of new schemes, development of basic elements of the scramjet rocket engines, liquid-jet engines and the other for advanced launch vehicles, upper stages and reusable space transportation systems in terms of work 2010 - 2012 g .. Code: ROC "Acceleration-B"
The initial (maximum) contract price: 340 000 000 rub.
Terms of the contract: April 2010 - December 2012 GG
"Creating a sustainer reusable liquid-propellant rocket engine for the first stage reusable rocket space system. Selection of the optimal shape sustainer reusable liquid-propellant rocket engine promising rockets for manned space systems and super-heavy launch vehicle. Creating an effective system of diagnosis and protection of engine failures in 2010-2012, the portion of the work. Code: ROC "Engine 2015"
The initial (maximum) contract price: 516 000 000 rub.
Terms of the contract: April 2010 - December 2012
"Modernization of the launch complexes rockets such as" Union "in 2010. Code: ROC "Start-2"
The initial (maximum) contract price: 141 000 000 rub.
Terms of the contract: 05.2010 - 11.2010 g.
"Modernization of the rocket launch complexes - carriers such as Proton in 2010. Code: ROC "Start"
The initial (maximum) contract price: 110 000 000 rub.
Terms of the contract: 05.2010 - 11.2010 g.
"Modernization of providing the Baikonur facilities, including storage facilities for space technology and rocket fuel, electricity, communications, and universal time, the railway sector, as well as oxygen and nitrogen plant and airfields" Jubilee "and" Deadline "in parts of manufacturing equipment of fire Signaling TC spacecraft "Soyuz" spacecraft "Progress" on the Square. 254, development of design documentation for the installation of fire in the construction vodopennogo 1 pl. 254, development of technical proposals for the creation of modular units of execution to be placed in the construction of a container type for rescue operations in emergencies, in part of the work in 2010. Code: ROC "Infrastructure" - 13
The initial (maximum) contract price: 5 600 000 rub.
Terms of the contract: 05.2010 - 11.2010g.
"Modernization of providing the Baikonur facilities, including storage facilities for space technology and rocket fuel, electricity, communications, and universal time, the railway sector, as well as oxygen and nitrogen plant and airfield" Jubilee "in the part of an automated system for collecting and transmitting information in-time close to real, from the ER on the technical condition of the material Joints RN during 2010 "Code: ROC" Infrastructure "- 11
The initial (maximum) contract price: 6 200 000 rubles.
Terms of the contract: 05.2010 - 11.2010 g.
More details of the tender documents, clarifications and additions thereto may be found in the "Contests" the official website of the Federal Space Agency on the Internet -- http://www.roscosmos.ru/As well as the official site of Russia for placing information on orders -- http://www.zakupki.gov.ru/
Il est un peu difficile de dire à quoi précisément correspondent ces appels d'offre mais c'est la première fois qu'il est fait allusion officiellement à un "super heavy lauch vehicule" (fusée super lourde).
The site Roskosmos posted conditions new tenders for government contracts
:: 30.03.2010
The site of the Federal Space Agency today published the tender documentation for the next 7 open tender for government contracts:
"Creating the perspective of a multifunctional complex, and centers of ground-based receiving, recording and processing of space information of remote sensing (RS) and, based on integrated satellite remote sensing, in terms of establishing the elements of a single territorial-distributed information system, remote sensing data in 2010-2011. Code: ROC "Admission"
The initial (maximum) contract price: 257 000 000,0 rubles.
Terms of the contract: 2010 - 2011 GG
"Creating an oxygen-hydrocarbon and hydrogen liquid rocket engines of new schemes, development of basic elements of the scramjet rocket engines, liquid-jet engines and the other for advanced launch vehicles, upper stages and reusable space transportation systems in terms of work 2010 - 2012 g .. Code: ROC "Acceleration-B"
The initial (maximum) contract price: 340 000 000 rub.
Terms of the contract: April 2010 - December 2012 GG
"Creating a sustainer reusable liquid-propellant rocket engine for the first stage reusable rocket space system. Selection of the optimal shape sustainer reusable liquid-propellant rocket engine promising rockets for manned space systems and super-heavy launch vehicle. Creating an effective system of diagnosis and protection of engine failures in 2010-2012, the portion of the work. Code: ROC "Engine 2015"
The initial (maximum) contract price: 516 000 000 rub.
Terms of the contract: April 2010 - December 2012
"Modernization of the launch complexes rockets such as" Union "in 2010. Code: ROC "Start-2"
The initial (maximum) contract price: 141 000 000 rub.
Terms of the contract: 05.2010 - 11.2010 g.
"Modernization of the rocket launch complexes - carriers such as Proton in 2010. Code: ROC "Start"
The initial (maximum) contract price: 110 000 000 rub.
Terms of the contract: 05.2010 - 11.2010 g.
"Modernization of providing the Baikonur facilities, including storage facilities for space technology and rocket fuel, electricity, communications, and universal time, the railway sector, as well as oxygen and nitrogen plant and airfields" Jubilee "and" Deadline "in parts of manufacturing equipment of fire Signaling TC spacecraft "Soyuz" spacecraft "Progress" on the Square. 254, development of design documentation for the installation of fire in the construction vodopennogo 1 pl. 254, development of technical proposals for the creation of modular units of execution to be placed in the construction of a container type for rescue operations in emergencies, in part of the work in 2010. Code: ROC "Infrastructure" - 13
The initial (maximum) contract price: 5 600 000 rub.
Terms of the contract: 05.2010 - 11.2010g.
"Modernization of providing the Baikonur facilities, including storage facilities for space technology and rocket fuel, electricity, communications, and universal time, the railway sector, as well as oxygen and nitrogen plant and airfield" Jubilee "in the part of an automated system for collecting and transmitting information in-time close to real, from the ER on the technical condition of the material Joints RN during 2010 "Code: ROC" Infrastructure "- 11
The initial (maximum) contract price: 6 200 000 rubles.
Terms of the contract: 05.2010 - 11.2010 g.
More details of the tender documents, clarifications and additions thereto may be found in the "Contests" the official website of the Federal Space Agency on the Internet -- http://www.roscosmos.ru/As well as the official site of Russia for placing information on orders -- http://www.zakupki.gov.ru/
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Re: Appels d'offres: le futur se prépare
Mar 30 Mar 2010 - 23:06
patchfree a écrit:Aujourd'hui publication d'appels d'offre pour le spatial. A côté de petits appels d'offre pour la rénovation de Baïkonour il y a de gros contrats sur les systèmes du futur: en particulier des moteurs pour "promising rockets for manned space systems and super-heavy launch vehicle" ou pour "advanced launch vehicles, upper stages and reusable space transportation systems".
Il est un peu difficile de dire à quoi précisément correspondent ces appels d'offre mais c'est la première fois qu'il est fait allusion officiellement à un "super heavy lauch vehicule" (fusée super lourde).
"Creating a sustainer reusable liquid-propellant rocket engine for the first stage reusable rocket space system. Selection of the optimal shape sustainer reusable liquid-propellant rocket engine promising rockets for manned space systems and super-heavy launch vehicle. Creating an effective system of diagnosis and protection of engine failures in 2010-2012, the portion of the work. Code: ROC "Engine 2015"
The initial (maximum) contract price: 516 000 000 rub.
Terms of the contract: April 2010 - December 2012
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560 000 000 rub--> 20M euros.
Cela fait un bon programme de recherche, mais de la à faire un moteur...
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Re: Appels d'offres: le futur se prépare
Mer 31 Mar 2010 - 8:15
SAit-on estimer l'écart de prix entre un programme d'une agence spatiale occidentale et l'agence russe ? 1à 5 ? 1 à 10 ?
Le nombre de tirs réalisé avec une enveloppe bien plus maigre, montre qu'il est difficile de comparer les budgets.
Le nombre de tirs réalisé avec une enveloppe bien plus maigre, montre qu'il est difficile de comparer les budgets.
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Re: Appels d'offres: le futur se prépare
Jeu 1 Avr 2010 - 19:55
montmein69 a écrit:SAit-on estimer l'écart de prix entre un programme d'une agence spatiale occidentale et l'agence russe ? 1à 5 ? 1 à 10 ?
Le nombre de tirs réalisé avec une enveloppe bien plus maigre, montre qu'il est difficile de comparer les budgets.
Je ne suis pas certain de comprendre ta question.
Pour les budgets on les connait. L'Europe a 1.5 fois plus que la Russie et la NASA 10 à 15 fois plus que la Russie.
Après s'il s'agit d'estimer ce que la Russie peut faire de plus avec le même budget, moi je dirais qu'il n'y a pas de différence, les coûts sont les mêmes approximativement. Voire les russes sont un peu handicapés par le prix des composants électroniques étrangers.
Par contre j'ai souvent l'impression qu'ils font les choses au plus juste et que les frais annexes sont moindres. Mais ce n'est qu'un sentiment qui ne repose sur aucune donnée bien établie. Simplement ils effectuent 40% des lancements, mais ils n'ont que 0,5% du marché global de spatial... dixit Vitaly Lopota, et je suis assez prêt à le croire. D'où leur problème récurrent d'avoir le sentiment d'être des "lanceurs" de satellites... Ce qui est tout de même exagéré.
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